He's fixated on making people zombies.
He overwhelms them.
He was trying to take over my body.
You can't be comfortable bringing your kids here.
I'm not.
Your soul is battling against the darkness.
It's a demon.
It's Satan.
This is true evil.
It doesn't end well here
and I just feel fear.
My name is Amy Allan.
This is like Grand Central Station for the dead.
I see dead people.
They have pain that they suffered.
I speak to dead people.
She hates them, hates them.
And they speak to me, but there's only one way to know
if my findings are real.
It's a demon.
It's Satan.
I rely on my partner.
I'm Steve DiSchiavi.
I'm a retired New York City homicide detective.
What was the body count? What happened?
And I know every person, every house has secrets.
I don't know if it's a demon or not,
but it sure as hell looks like one.
It's my job to reveal them.
I feel like I'm crazy.
But Steve and I never speak...
We never communicate during and investigation.
...until the very end.
All right. I want to show you this.
When we uncover if it's safe for you to stay...
I just don't want anything to happen to my mother.
...or time to get out.
You have to get out.
So I'm out here in Gatesville, Texas.
It's about an hour west of Waco.
I got a call from a woman named Christy.
Now, she sounded pretty upset on the phone,
and she tells me the activity in her house is out of control.
Listening to her story broke my heart,
and I'm hoping there's something Amy and I can do to help.
Before Amy arrives, I look for any leading information.
Photographs, children's toys, and even military medals
can influence her findings.
So it's important I cover or remove them all.
When I'm done, the location will be ready for tonight's walk.
This place has extreme negative energy.
There's this huge snake, like, a human-sized king cobra.
He's all about control.
What I'm seeing is,
this thing has been here a long time.
It's a battle to live here.
Your soul is battling against the darkness.
So, Christy, I'm glad I'm here
because when we talked on the phone,
you sounded really upset.
It feels like hell here.
You don't want to come home...
...because the minute you walk in that door,
you're being emotionally attacked, emotionally drained.
We moved here in 2012.
So, Christy, who lives in the house now?
Right now, just my husband and I, Steve.
- Okay. - And these are my two girls.
My daughter Tiffany, she lived with us for a little while,
and this is my daughter Jessica,
but I'm most concerned about my grandkids.
What's going on with the grandkids?
They say there's a mean man in the back room.
I made that area, so they could play back there and have fun,
but they're too scared to play in there.
I think whatever's here hates kids.
So that's got to kill you as a grandmother.
It does. It really, really, really does.
What do you think is going on here?
Whatever is here is evil, and in my heart of hearts,
I feel like it's a demon.
Well, I hope it's not, but if you're right, it's an issue.
Yes, sir.
So do me a favor and give me an idea
of what you guys are experiencing.
Being held down, being pushed, scratches,
mood swings, health issues.
Now, you mentioned mood swings. What are we talking about?
Ever been so scared,
it's like a fear that you just want to cry?
When you leave here, do you feel better?
I mean, do you go to work?
I used to work at the female maximum-security prison
right down the street, and I can't work anymore
because of my health issues.
Okay.
So there's a female prison down the block?
- Yeah, right down the street. - Okay.
That might be something I want to look into.
So let me ask you a question.
Why didn't you just sell this place
and get the hell out of here?
What's to say that whatever is here doesn't follow me?
This is supposed to be our forever home.
It's not supposed to be a house of nightmares.
I am not welcome here.
This place sucks up energy, man.
It's just like a cesspool.
I'm getting pushed out.
It's, like, right in my gut,
and it's physically pushing me back,
which make me feel nervous.
The snake, that thing, it is manipulating people
and what they're seeing.
It makes you, like, have bizarre thoughts, bizarre behaviors.
You probably aren't thinking quite rationally.
Do you know what this thing is?
I think, like, people think, like, it's Satan.
It's evil.
It's a demon.
Okay. So what's going on in here?
I felt someone sitting on the edge of my bed,
just like this, and then it got right back up,
and you could actually see it release.
Okay. Would you say it was an adult?
- It felt like a man. - Okay.
- Was Steve in bed with you? - No.
He had already left for work.
All right. Anything else?
I have woken up with scratches on my arm.
There were three scratches.
Is it possible you did it yourself?
No. No. My nails aren't that long.
All right, so I can't think of an explanation.
- Anything else? - Yeah.
Something touched on my leg.
How?
Like this and on my calf, too.
What'd it feel like, a man's hand, a woman?
Like a man's hand, like a caress.
It was inappropriate, and it was cold.
My god. He's got --
Okay, just a sec because he's coming up.
He's coming up my legs and arm.
I'm not gonna let him do that.
Just a sec.
Get off my **** legs, like, like, right now, please.
It seeps into your body.
Ice, ice, ice-cold.
I think that people have been hurt here.
Has anything else happened in here?
I was laying here one night.
I could hear wings and as it came toward me,
it pushed me back on the bed.
I felt like it was trying to take over my body.
I mean, I could actually feel my eyes being rolled
in the back of my head.
What did you do when that happened?
I kept saying, "I need to say, 'No.'
I need to say, 'No,'" and when I did, whoosh.
It receded and went back in the back of the house,
but you could still hear the wings flapping.
I was so scared, I cried.
- What did you think it was? - I felt it was demonic.
I feel like it was trying to take over my body.
I'm hoping that's not the case because if it is,
then it's a lot worse than we thought.
This snake thing, it's, like, big.
I can't put my arms around it,
and he knows where you're weak.
And then part of him, part of him goes with you,
like a seed, you know?
It can infect you, and then you go off and do really bad
**** here.
He's, like, fixated on making people zombies.
They can do his bidding.
I feel like it's trying to control me.
He's jacking up my head, and it hurts.
He's torturing living people.
So, Jessica, I just got finished talking to Mom.
Are you aware of how bad things are?
- Yes, very much aware. - Okay.
So I understand you're Christy's daughter with the kids.
Yes.
I have four, three boys and a girl.
You can't be comfortable bringing your kids here.
I'm not.
It's very hard. It really is.
Now, you've never lived here.
No. You couldn't make me live here.
Okay.
So have you had your own experiences?
- Yes, I have. - Okay.
So let's talk about some of them.
One time, I felt an icy caress down my back.
Okay, so where were you when this happened?
- I was in the back playroom. - Okay.
There was no one else in the room besides me,
and it sent, like, a cold shot through my body.
Like, I felt it from head to toe.
Okay. Anything else?
In this room, I saw something that I just can't explain.
Okay. Tell me what it looked like.
The only way I can think to describe them
are gremlin-like creatures crawling across the ceiling.
There were four of them, and they had four legs.
And you're positive it wasn't
some kind of reflection from outside?
My mom keeps the blinds in here closed.
I have to ask you. I mean, after seeing that,
why did you bring kids back here after that?
Because as hard as it is to come here,
I don't want to cost them the opportunity
to spend time with my parents, and I love my mother very much.
I think that whatever is here is draining the life from her.
I think it's trying to kill her.
Okay.
How might the living here be affected by this thing?
I think they could become violent.
I think they could become depressed.
It would be bad.
It doesn't end well here for living people.
So, Tiffany, things are pretty bad in this house.
Yes, very bad.
I can see that you're upset, but why did you think
it was important to talk in this room?
I used to live here, and I stayed in this room.
Okay, so this place has bad memories for you?
Yes.
Okay. You okay?
I feel very emotional and scared back here.
Okay. All right.
- Sorry. - No, no. It's okay. Relax.
It's all right. No, no, no, no.
It's okay.
Nothing's gonna happen to you while I'm here.
Trust me on that.
That makes me feel better.
Yeah, good. All right?
Take me through some of the experiences you had.
In certain areas, there's cold spots.
Okay, now, there's a vent right above you there.
Could that explain it?
No.
The heat would be on.
And how cold are we talking?
Like, freezer cold.
Okay. Anything else?
When I laid down to go to sleep, and all of a sudden,
I heard a male whisper in my ear my name.
- What was the voice like? - It'd been in an aggressive way.
It went like, "Tiffany!"
Anything else?
I had a dream...
Okay.
...of a little girl standing over me.
Describe the girl to me.
She was, like, about 6 or 7.
She had long blonde hair, and her eyes were solid black.
You worried about Mom as well?
Very worried about her,
and I couldn't stand it if anything happened to her.
Well, we're gonna make sure nothing does, okay?
- I hope so. - All right.
I'm seeing a little girl.
She is a dead person, and she's probably,
I don't know, maybe even, like, 8 or 9?
I do get that the dead little girl comes in here a lot.
That she likes to get on the bed.
She crawls up on it.
- Hey, Steve. - How you doing?
Good. You got a moment to chat?
- Yes, I do. - All right, great.
So, Steve, a lot of male clients are pretty skeptical.
How about you?
I was at first.
What changed your mind?
I was sitting out on the porch one night,
and I heard a man clearing his throat.
I know this place is pretty remote,
and nobody really around here,
but could it have been some transient guy
maybe just walking through?
Possible, that's why I grabbed the flashlight,
got in my truck, drove around the property
to look but didn't see anything.
All right. Anything else?
We have a doll.
The doll has a hat.
The hat was found in the hallway
on two different occasions on the same day.
And you don't have any animals that might grab
the hat off the doll and...
- No animals. - ...walk away with it?
No animals.
So I was talking to your wife,
and I tell you, pretty upsetting what she's going through.
I mean, how are you dealing with that?
I feel totally helpless.
She can be cheery one minute,
and then she spends some time being depressed.
If Amy says to leave, what are you gonna do?
We're gonna get out.
For the safety of my family, we will do that.
Okay.
I feel very, very anxious, like really stressed out back here.
I'm seeing this crying man.
You know, he's just, like, freaking out.
Really, like, super high energy anxious dude.
The crying man is back here.
I think that the living
would experience
his extreme anxiety,
his emotional state.
I also think they would hear him.
He's very loud.
He's very physical.
So movement of objectives.
It's not found in the same spot,
which may cause them to second-guess themselves.
I think it would make you crazy.
I'm feeling death right now.
This place is so small,
it makes the middle of nowhere seem exciting.
So I made my usual calls
and just heard back from the county sheriff.
Now, he knows all about Steve and Christy's property
and says the land used to be owned by another sheriff,
that is until he lost everything during an arrest gone bad.
Now, you mentioned on the phone that one of the owners
of my clients' land was also a sheriff.
Yes, sir. His name was Walter Hollingsworth.
He's very well-liked within the town
You know, they describe him as a tall man
with a lot of nervous energy.
In 1908, he married his wife,
Birdie, and the two of them of them
eventually had five kids.
Okay, so now, before he comes the sheriff,
was he a deputy or anything like that? No, sir.
Sheriff Hollingsworth was a really religious guy.
He was known as a preacher.
Sheriff Hollingsworth decided to run for sheriff in 1914.
He believed that he could do more good
as a lawman than a preacher.
So now, you mentioned on the phone
that things went pretty bad for him
when an arrest went wrong.
What happened?
I'm sure, Steve, when you was driving in,
you noticed close to your clients' property
that there was a woman's prison out there.
Used to be a boy's reformatory school.
Okay.
In 1931, there was a subject in the jail
that was very mentally unstable.
Well, Sheriff Hollingsworth went back to try to subdue him,
and during the fight,
the jail doctor came to try to help Sheriff Hollingsworth,
and he swung a metal pipe trying to hit the offender
and wound up striking
Sheriff Hollingsworth in the head.
All right.
So he gets hit with friendly fire from a steel pipe?
Absolutely, and the injuries were brutal.
- Does he die on the scene? - No.
He actually goes to a sanitarium in Waco,
but with all the brain swelling,
he had to have a portion of it removed.
All right. So what happened?
He continued on as sheriff, and in 1933,
he bought your clients' property.
Okay. All right.
But within a year,
he died due to the complication from his injury.
I'm seeing this crying man again.
He's really stressed out.
I do think, like, he was, like, really religious.
I think he's got, like, I'm thinking
it's the Bible with him.
God. I feel sick.!
He's super anxious, really, like,
super high-energy anxious dude.
He said the economy was really bad.-
So he was murdered.
But I don't know where.
All right, so now, he's dead,
and he's got a wife and, what, five kids?
- Yes. - So what happened with them?
Birdie, his wife, actually was appointed sheriff
and completed his term.
Female sheriff?
The first and only female sheriff here in Coryell County.
- Okay. - Unfortunately, money was tight.
Right. You know, being in the middle of the Great Depression,
she had to relinquish that property.
She wound up dying nearby in 1953 at the age of 68,
and that's a photo of her.
She don't look too happy?
No, she looks pretty hurt.
So there is a dead woman here.
She lived here for a long time.
I feel like she knows this place.
You know what I'm saying?
And I probably say she's probably, like,
late 70s, early 80s?
Like, I almost want to put her in the '40s or '50s, maybe.
She's saying the guy with the Bible outside comes inside.
She said, "He bothers them. He bothers them a lot."
And she's like, "He will stand there all night and just
****, like, preach."
That freaks out the living people here.
They're hearing him talking,
and they're feeling his energy.
They're freaking out because he overwhelms them.
He overwhelms them.
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So here's an interesting fact about this city.
About 15,000 people live here,
and more than half of them are locked up.
Now, Christy was a guard at that big prison
down the street from her house, so I called a local author
who said it used to be a boy's reformatory,
and what went on there was so shocking,
it will definitely help my case.
Well, Dr. Bush, thanks for meeting me here.
I appreciate that.
Before we get to what went wrong at the school,
how did it even start?
It opened because of a group of Christian women reformers
who had been visiting all of the prisons in Texas
to check on the conditions there,
and they discovered all of these teenage boys
in the prisons with the adult prisoners,
so in 1889, 68 boys were transferred out of
the Texas prisons into Gatesville,
and I have a picture of it right here
to give you a sense of what it looked like.
When did it go bad?
It started going bad pretty much right from the beginning --
a lot of fighting, a lot of violence,
definitely reports of inmate rape.
What were their living conditions like?
They had these sort of mass-custody dorms.
I've got a picture of one of them here.
You can see it's just rows and rows of beds.
It's almost like a hospital ward.
So there's a lot of overcrowding there.
It was really unsanitary,
so you had disease epidemics break out.
In 1918 when the Spanish Flu epidemic
swept the United States, 300 boys in Gatesville
caught it, and eight of them died.
Another eight died in accidents,
other sicknesses that could've been prevented
if conditions had been better.
What happens to their bodies? Their family take them?
There was actually a cemetery
that still exists on the grounds today.
So I know it eventually closed down,
and now, it's a women's prison, from what I understand.
In '79, it shut down, and the very next year in 1980,
it reopened as a women's prison.
There's, like, all of these very old brown skeletons.
They just are to the side of, like, this path,
and I see a hundred men facing the road,
and all of them turn at the same time.
They're all men.
They're all male, and they're pointing,
and what they're pointing at is where the church should be,
and all of a sudden, all these walls come up,
like these cement walls,
and then I feel like it was a trick,
and I got duped, and I'm trapped.
The snake, that thing, that man, it's causing violence.
Any negative things that living have done here
was because of him.
Since the reformatory closed in 1979,
there have got to be some people in town
who used to be inmates there.
So I worked the phones, talked to a bunch of the locals,
and I finally got in touch with one guy
who says the experience was so horrible,
he's never gotten over it.
Obviously, this school was a big deal
to have a whole wing to it in this museum.
I don't mean to pry, but I need to know if you can tell me.
How the hell did you wind up in here?
Truancy, believe it or not.
All right. So let me get this straight.
You wound up in prison because you didn't go to school?
You skipped out of school?
I mean would've been in jail at 11.
What year did you get sentenced here? 1975.
I was 15.
I just spoke to a professor who told me
that the conditions were barbaric there.
What was it like when you were there?
You could've called it a gladiator farm.
In order to have any kind of respect
with any of the kids there, you had to stand up for yourself.
Otherwise, you would be eaten alive.
And it's not something you get out of your head.
No. I still think about that.
Did you ever attempt to get out of this place?
More times than I can probably count.
Okay, when you escaped, what was it like?
Somewhere between terrifying and exhilarating.
Your heart is racing 100 miles an hour.
The horsemen, we heard them as they were approaching
because you could hear them talking on their walkie-talkies.
You could hear the dogs baying, absolutely terrifying.
It's the run for your life,
and you knew that if they caught you
that you were going to take a pretty hardcore beating
or get killed.
So, obviously, you got picked up. Yes.
Unfortunately, the Coryell County Sheriff's Department,
the state guys, they were all on top of us like crazy.
So do you know of anyone personally
that didn't make it back from one of these escapes?
There was a kid on our dorm that didn't make it back.
I believe it happened to a lot of kids.
I believe some of them are still on the grounds.
I really do.
Do you think you ever got over your time here?
No, probably not.
It took me a long time to get to where
I didn't sleep with one eye open.
I think it's haunted a lot of people, and it still haunts me.
I saw a lot of disturbing things during my walk,
but the snakelike creature tormenting the living
has me the most concerned.
It was this gray nonhuman thing.
He had, like, pin-straight hair, like, an abnormally thin neck,
leaning over a person in a bed, and he turned into a snake.
I would make that a little bit wider...
- Wider? - Yeah.
...and not too much nostril here. Okay.
Amy, is this what you saw?
Yes.
Now that Amy and I have completed our investigations,
we're ready to reveal our findings to each other
and our clients for the first time.
So, Amy, this is Christy, and this is her husband, Steve.
They live here together, and this is Tiffany,
Christy's daughter.
Now, I got to tell you. Christy's story broke my heart.
She believes whatever here is evil
and hates women and children, and that's a huge problem
because Christy has four beautiful grandchildren.
Now, these kids visit a lot,
so she's hoping you can show her what's here
and how to kick it out.
So now that Amy knows a little bit about you guys,
she'll tell us about her walk.
There's an extreme amount of negative energy
here in this area.
I was feeling multiple deaths that had occurred,
very violent deaths that were nearby.
I was shown a lot of really old bones,
and they were all scattered.
The next thing was,
I saw about a hundred people.
They were pointing towards what should be a church,
but it was in ruins.
Then these large cement walls
just came up on all four sides and just blocked me in.
A lot of what you mentioned makes me think of the prison
right down the road from here.
Now, Christy, actually, you worked there, right?
So these days, it's a maximum security women's prison.
Really?
But back in the day, it was a boy's reformatory school.
Interesting.
Now, you mentioned that you saw a church.
It was started in the late 1800s by a woman's Christian group.
The goal of this whole thing was to help
troubled kids turn their lives around.
Instead, it turned into a nightmare.
They were abused, beaten, raped, tortured.
How could anyone do that to children?
Conditions were so bad there, 16 kids died in a 20-year period
from 1900 to 1920.
The kids were buried right on the grounds
just down the street from here.
Cemetery's still there today.
Now, the abuse went on for years.
Finally, the Feds came in, and in 1979, they shut it down.
I heard stories, and I didn't know what was true
and what wasn't true.
Okay. So what else?
One of the dead people that I ran into
was a deceased little girl.
I was guessing her age at about 8 years.
Living people in this house might see her.
That's interesting.
Tiffany, did you tell me about having a dream of a little girl?
I did.
She had long blonde hair.
I didn't see what she was wearing or anything,
but she did have solid black eyes.
Interesting.
She spends a lot of time in the master bedroom.
She also was showing me that she would get into bed
and crawl kind of to the bottom of the bed
and curl up like a little dog.
I was laying in bed,
and I felt like something was definitely in the bed.
The next dead person I ran into was just freaking out,
so I call him the crying man.
He has a very big impact
on the living in this house.
He has extremely high anxiety.
He can easily affect the living and their emotions
when they're around him,
so that could swing from extreme stress and anxiety
to extreme depression,
possibly even the need to cry unexpectedly.
I go from crying to large bouts of depression,
sadness, anxiety, and there's lots of anger,
constant roller coaster of emotions.
So, Tiffany, when you're here, do you feel that? Yes.
I feel sad and especially in the back room.
Now, you used to live back in that room? Yes, I did.
He talks a lot,
so I thought that maybe the living here would hear him.
Tell Amy what happened.
I was sitting out on the porch one night,
and it sounded like a man cleared his voice,
got my attention.
I got a flashlight, and I drove around the property, nothing.
I was in that back room,
and I was getting ready to go to bed.
I had just laid down, and out of nowhere,
I heard my name whispered in my ear,
and it was a man's voice.
Okay. Okay.
So any idea who this guy might've been when he was alive?
So he was white.
I believe he owned this property at some point.
He was extremely religious, and he just said, you know,
"The economy was horrible.
Everything was really bad. We lost it all."
I think I might know who she's talking about.
Back in the 1930s, this property was owned
by a former sheriff of the county.
His name was Walter Hollingsworth.
He was extremely, extremely religious.
Before he was a sheriff, he was a preacher.
Wow. Okay.
I also tracked down a photo of Hollingsworth
when he first got the job as the sheriff.
Now, in 1931, his life changed.
An inmate was going nuts in the jail,
and Hollingsworth tackled him to get him to calm down.
The jail doctor grabs a lead pipe.
He tried hitting the convict with that lead pipe,
but he wound up hitting the sheriff.
He was in the hospital a long time
and even had part of his brain removed.
****.
- No. - My god.
Now, he died three years later in 1934
due to complications from that injury at the age of 60. Okay.
After that accident, his wife, Birdie, took over as sheriff.
I actually have a picture of her.
But by 1935, she was completely broke
and had to give up the property.
She ended up dying in 1953 at the age of 68.
She was penniless.
So this kind of brings me to what I think
is the biggest problem here.
It was showing itself as, like,
a huge snake like a king cobra.
It seemed to me like this thing had really never been human
and was ancient,
and it has a very big effect
on living people.
It can cause accidents, and it can get physical.
My god.
He's coming up my legs, and I am not gonna let him do that.
Get off my **** legs, like, like, right now.
It seeps into your body.
Ice-cold.
I was laying there one night
and a cold hand touched my thigh,
and it worked its way down to my calf.
Yeah, it was cold.
I didn't know that was happening to her.
I did have a sketch done.
Wow.
I'm pissed off.
I'm very upset
that it's doing that to my mother.
I was sitting on the bed and had that other door shut,
and then I heard wings flapping toward my bedroom,
and it flew into the door and pushed me on the bed,
and the force held me on the he bed so hard,
it was hard to breathe,
and I could actually feel my eyes rolling back in my head,
and I couldn't talk.
Now, does any of that what she's saying
make any sense to you?
Yeah.
You know, it's kind of hard to see what this thing
really looks like from this sketch.
Did you get a better look at this thing?
I had its face sketched.
The face, okay.
My god.
Wow.
It looks pure evil.
This thing can make people have,
you know, extremely bizarre thoughts,
hallucinations, acting out,
bizarre behaviors, all of that.
The stuff that happened at the boy's reformatory,
the sheriff getting hit and stuff like that,
could that have been caused by this thing? Yes.
Any violence that goes on in and around here
is caused directly by this, by this thing.
What the hell does this thing want from these guys?
Its ultimate goal is to make people zombies,
and it does this by planting seeds in the living.
It'll influence them to do things
that they wouldn't normally do.
My god.
I'm scared to leave her at home by herself now
that I know what's going on.
What the hell is this thing?
Well, like a demon-devil.
You know, this is true **** evil.
I knew it wasn't good,
but I would've never expected this bad.
This is even worse than I what I had in my mind.
I'm sorry. I need a minute.
So, Christy, I've done over 150 of these cases,
and I can't tell you how many people think they know
what's going on in their own home.
Unfortunately, in this case, you were right on the money,
so now we're gonna answer the big question.
Can you stay and fight it like you want to,
or do you need to pack up and get out?
For that answer, I'm gonna turn it over to Amy.
So this thing has done damage
for a very long time,
and Christy, his plan for you
is to just get rid of you, kill you off.
Steve, he says he can control you.
He's behind you, beside you.
He wants all of you and that he's almost there.
For you, Tiffany,
he said he enjoys you
and that you're next, that he'll come for you,
and there is a small seed already inside of your body.
- My god. - No, no.
So how do we stop it, or can we stop it?
Okay. So here's the thing, Tiffany.
The seed and the attachment need to be removed
by a Native American shaman
and that once this is done, you can never return here.
Steve, you need a purification
and blessing ceremony.
You can never return after.
And then, Christy,
you definitely need to move as soon as possible.
I'm sorry. I'm really sorry.
You okay, Tiff?
I'm scared. I'm upset.
I'm...I don't know what to feel right now.
So if they do all of this,
will they eventually get back to being a normal family?
Yes.
I get my mom back, and if she has to move...
- We'll start over elsewhere. - Okay.
You promise me you're gonna listen to what she said?
- Exactly. -100%.
- That's a promise. - I understand.
It's gonna happen. It's gonna happen.
Okay.
My mom means everything to me, so I appreciate y'all.
It's never easy telling a family to leave their home,
but in a situation as dangerous as this, it's their only option.
Hopefully, they take my advice, leave this demon behind
and get a fresh start someplace new.
Hi, our house is under contract to sell.
We have followed Amy's advice,
and we're looking forward to moving into a new home
and having our grandkids come stay with us again,
so we're just hoping for a new beginning
and to be able to start over.